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kenburton500 Posts:6
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Posted:06/09/2007 8:47 PM |
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I have been having some issues with depression and one of the topic with my Christian Counselor is my mother who committed suicide when I was 13. I discovered her and it affected me ways I can't even say; there are no words for the damaged I felt. Well, to get to the point is my counselor told me once you kill yourself...you go to hell; my point to my Counselor is my Mother was saved and when she committed sucide she had just got out of the hospital..in lots of pain and called everyone told them she was going to commit sucide. My counselor told me she couldn't ask for forgiveness for her sin before she died therefore she is doomed to hell. Another thing I want to say is my MOther was Bi-polar and she attempted suicide many times the last time no one responded which left me the responsible one;Ishould have saved her. I believe our God is a Merciful God and I can't see him sending my Mom to hell when one she did mental disease...just like if someone had cancer. No where in the bible does it say that you will go to hell...that is not the unpardonable sin. Please tell me what your thougts on this very difficult topic. Also, I have been in such a deep depression for several months and I can't see to get out of...my friends tell me to snap out of it...I pray; I don't want to feel this way...I don't want to end up like my mother. I don't have any family members...all of siblings are drug addicts and hate me....the only one person that is good..is my husband..but even he might get tired and leave me. Sad in Helotes
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gfike Posts:237
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Posted:06/09/2007 10:15 PM |
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I would recommend finding another counselor. We have a number of great counselors we can refer you to. Suicide certainly isn't the unforgivable sin, although I know several counselors who will say that if it will prevent the tragedy of a suicide. It is certainly not God's best option for anyone, and I hesitate to even speak of it as an option at all. There is help available, and a God who provides salvation and a purpose By grace you are saved trough faith - and that is not of yourself - it is the gift of God. Eph. 2:8 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which he decided beforehand that we should walk in them. Eph. 2:10
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Posted:06/10/2007 9:00 AM |
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I might just ask about another counselor. All other views about God we agree on and he is a very nice guy..in fact I think he goes to ya'll church. I just ask for your prayers more than anything else right now. This depression seems to be eating away myself...who I am as a person. The joy of life is gone.
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Posted:06/11/2007 11:14 AM |
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Sad in Helotes, I agree with Pastor George, you need to find a new counselor. But may I first suggest calling the church to join the Freedom Ministry, they are a great help and I am sure can get you started on your way to freeing yourself from your baggage and being free in Christ, accepting his love for you. You will be in my prayers and I hope that you find the help and the peace you need.
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Posted:06/15/2007 11:26 PM |
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Dear Sad in Helotes, My heart aches for you, and I will keep you in my prayers. I understand the struggle with depression, the acute and chronic pain surrounding the loss of a loved one to suicide, marital strain, the questions.... Please trust that our Heavenly Father cradles you in His arms even now and sees you as truly precious. He desires you to have a life filled with peace and joy and love. I do not know the specifics of your situation, but I can attest to God's faithfulness to fulfill his promises, as shared with us in the Bible, when seek to love Him with all our heart, all our soul, all our mind, all our strength. I have been a believer since I was 12 years old and have loved the Lord since I was a little child, but I, too, have struggled with depression and suicidal tendencies from which I thought I would never escape. The only thing I could hold onto during my lowest moments was just pure blind faith that my Lord loves me and is sufficient. It didn't even provide any consolation or make me feel any better at the time; I just held on to that tiny bit of faith and found the strength to focus on that. No one...not my family, not my husband, not my coworkers, not my counselor when I finally broke down and went to one...was supportive or helpful or even understanding. In fact, they often were destructive even without meaning to be. I had no friends or social life. Even my attempts to reach out to church contacts failed miserably. Still, God was faithful to see me through it all, and, little by little, has provided tremendous healing. I believe that God was faithful to your Mom and is faithful to you. I believe you can be healed of your depression. I hope that just knowing that someone else is praying for you, hoping for you, believing in you and in our Lord's power in you, will serve to help you. I hope to hear from you again. Peace2U
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Posted:06/20/2007 12:08 AM |
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From someone who has attempted suicide several times and has thought about it even more, I think the worst thing people would tell me was to snap out of it. Depression is certainly no laughing matter and should not be taken lightly. There is no easy cure, but there is a sure way and that is witht he grace of GOD. I do not know where I would be today without Tuesday night's recovery group. Getting professional help is a must, but when you're ready, I recommend the metaphorphisis group. And I also recommend running. Those endorphines that the brain creates have definitely helped me when times got really bad. I will keep you in my prayers. God Bless You!
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kenburton500 Posts:6
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Posted:07/26/2007 9:56 PM |
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I want to reply to everyone that did. I actually within the last two weeks got even deeper into depression. It was like I was sinking into quicksand. I did something stupid and took pills..trying to OD, to go to heaven to be with my Mom. I know that it was stupid and not the right thing to do but I just can't get out of it. I was in the hospital for eight days. I can't tell my friends cuz they would tell me to snap out of it and rely on God..but I need also the medication and help...they ..Docs told me that I am Bipolar....however I definitely tend to go into a deep depression. I feel sad that I did what I did ...and I pray God will forgive me. I don't want to hurt myself but I also don't want to feel this horrible emotional pain that I have. I do feel lost and I can't seem to stop crying... I am now going to an outprogram reach group....it is ok...only been three days.,..hopefully it will get better. I can't seem to wrap my mind around other people talking about their problems...sounds selfish..but I just want to say out loud I have problems too and I don't want to hear about others cuz right now I can't add to my problems....it is pretty heavy...I ask if ya'll would continue to pray for me...please...and thank you ahead of time for all the prayers...I know there God has a purpose for me...I just don't know what....I know God will carry me during this time and I do trust in him...I just pray that although I been very weak that he will not be to mad @ me for what I have done to myself. Sad in Helotes.
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Posted:08/16/2007 9:46 PM |
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God absolutely adores you with a love that the human mind cannot comprehend. YOU are his great love and it grieves him to see you or any of his children tormented. SEEK him in the people around you, in his words through the scriptures. I'm reading a book called "Pigs in the Parlor". It's a book on deliverance. Start rebuking Satan and command evil spirits to leave you in the name of Jesus! Do it every time you feel the sadness. There is GREAT POWER in His name and we need to start believing that. Bless you.
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